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Why I am voting for Obama in PA

by Airb330, Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:23:26 PM EST

I was a strong Edwards supporter until the very end. After a few weeks of hearing "who do you support now?" from friends and family, I finally decided on Hillary Clinton. She seemed to take a more populist stance and brought a few new states back into play for the Democrats (AR,WV, NM). I don't get Obama's great appeal. Sure, his record is fine, and he gives an OK speech. I just don't think it is his time, and I hate they way everyone assumes since I am young, I must be for Obama. Heck, almost every gay man I know in Philly is for Clinton. My family down in Delaware is for Clinton. Even most of my friends from college, even some Republicans are for Clinton! I honestly do not know one person who is for Obama, though I know that is really weird.

So why am I voting for him?

Well, I want this primary over with. Sure I would have preferred Edwards, then Clinton. But, you know what? I feel Clinton has lost at this point. I don't like how her campaign has been run, and I think she has surrounded herself with some awful "talent". Heck, I am just happy Delaware actually mattered for once, and now PA. I like how Obama is building a ground game in states. I still don't know if he has a shot at the GE, but I can't say for certain Hillary would be better. I feel its time for her to drop out soon. I don't want this going to the convention. I am voting for what I think is best for the Democratic Party and I've come to the conclusion that Obama might just be better. Am I certain? Nope, but that's my reasoning anyway.

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Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (2.00 / 1)

you don't sound convincing or convinced.

What is best for the democratic party is to vote for who you think would be the best president in my opinion.

However to each his own , she would win Pennsylvania handily.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:30:18 PM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (2.00 / 0)

Never said I was convinced. I am impressed at how well clinton does with the working class whites (aka why my family probably likes her). I feel Obama has a severe problem with this key demographic. I know how strongly you're for Clinton Lori, so I appreciate your imput (I tend to read here more than post).

Just as another poster said. If it really was up to "experience" we wouldn't really be considering either of these candidates.

I am sure CLinton will win PA. I just don't see how she wins this without some sort of shady convention deal. Even with winning MI and FL (which I think she would anyway). I'm definitely not concern trolling, I am voting for who I think has 'won' and will win.

Besides, whoever I support fades anyway. Maybe if I switch to Obama, Clinton will somehow win every remaining contest ;)

Gore, Edwards 04, Kerry, Edwards 08, Clinton 08, Obama....my track record sucks!

Philly Liberal

by Airb330 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:09:40 PM EST
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Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (2.00 / 1)

Cheer up. Your track record doesnt suck, every democrats track record sucks since 2000.

But if you really like Edwards, you must know that fighting for ones beliefs/principles/goals are all good cause. And Senator Clinton is that kind of a fighter. If she hasnt lost, why give up? Yes it seems very difficult for her to get 65-35 results. But can it happen? Yes, if people start using their brains more and emotions less.

Remember at the end, God does everything for a reason. Dont give up, if you like Hillary.

by Sandeep on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:37:03 AM EST
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By the way I am actually listening to a rally by Hillary Rodham Clinton in Penn , she is on steroids.

lol

http://cbs3.com/video/?cid=234

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:33:35 PM EST

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Funny enough, I've been posting the math time and again and every time I get ridiculed for suggesting that the vast majority of Democrats that like BOTH candidates might finally start to rally around the inevitable winner. Unless airb3330 is a concern troll, this seems to be direct evidence that pointing out the math is a good idea.

by elrod on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:38:13 PM EST

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So if one can not win on issues/policies, we should try to win on inevitability?

Keep talking about math 1000 times (sounds like a Republican Karl Rove thought process). The late deciders see thru such tactics and so far in all exit polls from Ohio, TX, MS, late deciders have gone for Hillary.

by Sandeep on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:44:24 AM EST
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wow she is on fire ,

" you would never see me holding hands with the saudi's...."

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:38:45 PM EST

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will we see their names on her husband's library donor list?
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Ten million, wasn't it?

by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:57:43 PM EST
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Proof?

by indus on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:06:45 PM EST
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See my post below, WaPo article on Clinton Library funding. Ten million contribution from Saudi Arabia.

by mady on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:11:18 PM EST
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Clinton Library Got Funds From Abroad
Saudis Said to Have Given $10 Million
By John Solomon and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, December 15, 2007; A03

Bill Clinton's presidential library raised more than 10 percent of the cost of its $165 million facility from foreign sources, with the most generous overseas donation coming from Saudi Arabia, according to interviews yesterday.

The royal family of Saudi Arabia gave the Clinton facility in Little Rock about $10 million, roughly the same amount it gave toward the presidential library of George H.W. Bush, according to people directly familiar with the contributions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121402124_ pf.html

by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:12:17 PM EST
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So you are looking for the taxpayers to fund the presidential library.

by indus on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 10:39:23 AM EST
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Nope. Responding to Hillary Clinton's self-righteous, grand-standing declaration that we'll never see her "holding hands with the Saudis"; also, it occurs to me, would a Saudi hold hands in public with a woman?

by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 10:51:53 AM EST
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Um. have you checked the donor's list (none / 0)

to the Clinton Library....

"We are building a political movement - not one that wields the power of lobbyists and corporate interests, but the power of millions... who seek change." -Dean

by Jim in Chicago on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:28:30 PM EST
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I have family in Delaware County and I'm a former resident and they're still undecided. They aren't really happy with either candidate. This, as usual is hype, if it were about experience we wouldn't be talking about these two now. I just cannot wait to get it over with.

This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!

by venavena on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:50:47 PM EST

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121402124_ pf.html

by mady on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:53:23 PM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (none / 0)

HRC is going to win PA by over 20% over BO. But his crowd will declare this a victory. On Nov 4th after McCain clocks him he will also declare victory and blame HRC for his defeat. Dkos will run 50 straigth threads smearing HRC and demand she give up her senate seat. And BO will have a place along with a long list of dems who lost the GE including McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry. While they say a liberal senator cant be elected president. No the will blame everyone but themselfs.

david

by giusd on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:56:03 PM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (2.00 / 0)

I wish I knew you, David, so I could get you to put some $ behind your 20% prediction. Obama catches up to HRC everywhere they campaign. Her early leads are due to name recognition. Once people see both candidates, Obama eats into her lead, sometimes blows past her, sometimes comes up short. How much he eats in depends on the demographics. Just go to pollster.com and look at the state charts.

Here's my PA prediction:

The 19% lead will slowly but surely dwindle away, until 3 days before the primary, some polling outfit shows BO with a 2% lead.

HRC will then win by 4% in the most incredible comeback ever, proving that

A) PA counts
B) Only HRC can win PA in the general

She'll pick up a few delegates, and the media will once again wonder why BO can't "put away" HRC

BO will then go back to increasing his delegate lead in contests that don't count, and we'll do this again next time a state with demographics that favor HRC comes up.

by grover738 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:32:09 PM EST
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"Her early leads are due to name recognition."

It seems to me that was more true in the earlier primary dates--but not so much any more. For later voting states (such as OH), it seems the earlier noted leads have held a bit more. I believe this may be true in PA too (that Hillary will maintain a big lead when it actually comes to the vote), because at this time we already pretty much know what there is to know by the time the polling even starts in our states. Just my thoughts.

HRC: "...not a vote to rush to war--it...puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President, we say to him 'Use these powers wisely and as a last resort.'"

by ChargedFan on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:43:44 AM EST
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Here's pollster.com's summary of Ohio's polls:

http://www.pollster.com/08-OH-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php

Texas:

http://www.pollster.com/08-TX-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php

Pretty much the same poll. Hillary finished strong in both states, she got the late deciders, so the polls did flatten at the end.

I'm not saying that Obama closes fast on HRC because he's that much of a better candidate. I think it's because a fair bit of HRC's support is from people who haven't been paying much attention, but know the name. I've easily flipped a lot of people to Obama, who supported Clinton because of fond memories of Bill.

PA will be interesting. I bet it will be very similar to OH, Obama will close the gap but not enough to win it.

by grover738 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 09:51:11 AM EST
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Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (none / 0)

Thanks first for those links--I can't say I've come across that site before, but it's a very interesting and worthwhile one. So thank you for that. (Somewhat related question--I know I've seen some reference how bogus some of the polling services are, and I've been trying to figure out the most worthwile ones myself. I noticed Quinnipiac had OH almost exactly right, and I've had the sense that they were one of the more accurate polling sources. Any thoughts?)

Anyway, I have no doubt you've flipped some Hillary supporters for the reason cited. Yet I've also flipped several Barack supporters who'd initially been against Hillary solely for the fact she was married to Bill without really knowing what she herself had accomplished (again, many who just really haven't been paying attention, but liked the sound of Barack's sound bites). I agree that PA will be interesting--however I do believe she'll maintain a larger lead than in OH. The wildcard really is how our Governor's support will influence the Philly-area vote (he has great influence among the politicians there; but he has also remained a big supporter of Philly sports teams in a commentary-type role from what I understand, and I wonder if his popularity in the sports world may also help with the youth vote in that area? I don't know, but I do think it's all a bit of a wild-card.)

HRC: "...not a vote to rush to war--it...puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President, we say to him 'Use these powers wisely and as a last resort.'"

by ChargedFan on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 11:58:02 AM EST
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I just wonder if anyone has any interest in any more debates. There will be one next month and I wish it would go away. I can't imagine what either can say that hasn't been said over and over.

by Becky G on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:56:39 PM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (none / 0)

Just by virtue of being blog-readers we're more politically tuned in (not to say "political junkies") than most people. I think the local ratings on those debates spike when a state primary is approaching.

Certainly can't hurt (but I won't be planning my schedule around them).

by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:59:12 PM EST
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I would be surprised if you were the only one getting election fatigue. The topics of discussion surrounding the candidates have gotten outright abysmal - Ferarro's comments were a disgrace, but let's face it, she's not the one up for election. Same thing with Obama's church's minister - I've seen a lot of priests and ministers who say some things that wouldn't fly too well if it were replayed in front of the mass media. And he's not the one running for President either.

At some point the general public is going to hit the tipping point and just tune out. For an election this important, that started out with so much enthusiasm and hope on both sides, that's more than a tragedy, that's a failure by the Party to put its best face forward and offer a real change from the Republican years.

by upstate girl on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:08:34 PM EST

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Exactly. I am a political junky. I read here, OL, DKos (UGH, Daily Obama is more like it. The Clinton hate there is beyond ridiculous) and even I am sick of the primary.. I am just ready for the GE. I like hearing Obama attack McCain, I think what he says has been pretty effective. Same with Clinton though. Both have serious flaws and both are good on policy, let's just get this over with.

Philly Liberal

by Airb330 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:13:16 PM EST
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Haha, you and I are mirror images it sounds like. I'm for Obama, and he's my favored candidate, but I'm utterly sick of the sniping on both sides. This diary makes a wonderful point - the fact that you can't reach a working agreement and fix problems when the only conversation is "well, you did this!" "well, YOU did THIS!" Now amplify that by a million with all the hyperbole, exaggeration, and frustration and you have a nation of Democrats at each other's throats - and the Republicans are just loving watch us self-implode.

No individual is perfect, no surrogate or campaign staff member is perfect, and neither are any of us. Clinton and Obama are both decent people and would make a much better President than McCain. Its time we put our eyes back on the ball.

by upstate girl on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:22:30 PM EST
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"Well, I want this primary over with."

since you sound like you prefer Hillary - why not go the OTHER way with the rest of PA - put her OVER THE TOP with a HUGE win in PA, that'll bring her delegates up and she'll go off to the next one with a bigger momentum...

Your vote for Obama simply prolongs it....because she's gonna win PA and they'll both have to go on to the next one....if she wins PA BIG....it'll be pretty apparent that she's won ALL the big states (except his home state) and then she WILL BE THE NOMINEE...

Obama will pull out due to DEM pressure and he'll be her VP

by nikkid on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:13:46 PM EST

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She's got to surpass the delegate lead and popular vote first. I know its enticing to think about her being able to make a case to carry the "big states", but those states will go Democratic anyway, just like the have the last 8 years at the height of Republican fever. It sounds convincing, but its just not an actionable plan - nor is it fair to circumvent the process by which we collectively choose our nominee.

by upstate girl on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:18:16 PM EST
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It is not "and", it is "or" :-)

"the delegate lead OR popular vote"

Either one and she is the nominee.

by Sandeep on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:54:44 AM EST
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Could you elaborate as to why?

I said "both" because the chances of the popular vote and delegate count being split are statistically virtually impossible. For the sake of completeness we can leave it on the table, but its an extremely long shot to factor in as a realistic possibility.

Finally I don't see how her taking one or the other helps her (or Obama, for that matter) make a case that only benefits her - especially when you say "if she takes either". There's no way that an argument for her taking either wouldn't have an equally valid argument for him, and vice versa.

by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:00:30 AM EST
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Yet that "statistically virtually impossible" happened in at least NV and TX (which is confirmation that the often convoluted delegate assignments do NOT necessarily represent the "will of the people"--and we've also seen [perhaps again, but I don't know the voting affects of Independents and Republicans on past primaries] that the "Democratic" Primary is not necessarily Democratic after all)!?

HRC: "...not a vote to rush to war--it...puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President, we say to him 'Use these powers wisely and as a last resort.'"

by ChargedFan on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:55:03 AM EST
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The delegate count and the popular vote totals for each individual state are much lower - a smaller sample base - and its easier for that outcome to occur on a state level. When you factor in 50 states (not all of which have caucuses) that sample base becomes much larger so anomalies like TX and NV become proportionally much less significant in the overall correlation.

by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:03:29 AM EST
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If she wins big in PA and FL and keeps it close in NC, she can overcome the votes factor. The problem with delegates is that sometimes 59-41 is equal to 51-49 due to our weird distribution system.

Now why either works for her: Just as being black helps Barack, being a Clinton and a woman helps Hillary. There is something called loyalty, just like hatred, for Clintons. Many SDs who hate/dislike Clintons have already sided with Obama. Many SDs are waiting to support Hillary but are thinking of the reasons they will tell to their constituencies. It the current state, all SDs can get behind Obama but they are not. Because many feel Hillary is a better candidate. And they are waiting with the hope that her case becomes stronger in the coming days.

by Sandeep on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:12:03 AM EST
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Trust me, this is how I felt at first. The more I learn about Hillary's campaign, however, really irritates me. It's not her, but her surrogates. They need to stop pretending states like Delaware and Kansas didn't count. Hillary could have won my home state, but she ignored DE, and look, Obama won. She is losing because of that fact. I don't see how she catches up at this point. Her campiagn saying Obama should be her VP is insulting, he is beating her right now.

I feel both candidates bring different people to the table. I have some problems with both of them Clinton with independents and Obama with lower info votes (working class whites, whatever we are calling them). I want our candidate to win, and I still think our party is favored against McCain.

I'd just like to thank everyone for keeping this discussion civil. I appreciate it. Putting Obamabot and concern troll in the tags though is a little much though...

Philly Liberal

by Airb330 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:39:08 AM EST
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I really want the primary to end. I am scared that they will permanently damage each other and the party. I just feel like it is getting past the point where it should have been decided. What is funny is that I can't figure out why this doesn't always happen.

I remember the decisiveness in the previous primaries. This one is so close.

by Tantris on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:19:10 PM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (none / 0)

MOney, mostly, I think. Iowa and New Hampshire created fund-raising momentum that established a clear front-runner. The 2004 primary had its moments, and '92 was pretty ugly. Clinton, Brown and Tsongas, if they didn't hate each other by the end, were doing a hell of an impression of it.

Personally, I think if the candidates stay positive, I prefer a longer primary. I definitely wouldn't want a winner-take-all system like them on the other side have. Pity Edwards dropped out. Would've been better if the other two had to keep an eye on him as well as each other.

by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:25:06 PM EST
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I agree. Its a shame because a prolonged primary season could do wonders at promoting the Democratic ticket and the issues and platforms the party represents. Instead we get two decent people drowning in a sea of surrogates, ministers, supporters, talking heads, and every quote or statement is embellished, dissected, misinterpreted, and treated like that's all we have to base our vote on.

by upstate girl on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:39:53 PM EST
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I believe the extended primary is a good thing. How many new voters are getting registered in PA simply because it's a competitive primary? In any state that has a prayer of going blue, it's a good thing to let the voters see these two strong Democratic candidates.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:20:59 AM EST

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I agree that the voter drive in PA is one benefit of this drawn out process. I'll be in PA the next two weekends volunteering for voter signup duty and I'm excited!

by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:24:07 AM EST
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I agree it's been great so far. But there is a point of diminishing returns. Every election now is little more than a census, confirming the demographic breakdown of the Democratic Party. And so the attacks from both camps are getting increasingly vicious and driven by identity politics. That will destroy the Democratic Party in November.

by elrod on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:15:50 AM EST
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i've felt what you kinda have (none / 0)

for a bit, tho a month after I voted, which I did on Super Tuesday. I want it over too, Obama seems to be able to make it over soon. But after seeing the Wright video, I'm scared if he gets the nod. He seems to be like Kerry, who lets smears about him spiral until its too late. If Obama were any good, he'd make a big John Kennedy like speech about the fact he is NOT A MUSLIM. And do it emphatically so no one can forget that. he has failed so far at addressing that concern. Hell he should go on 60 Minutes with his wife, and do what Bill Clinton and Hillary did. But then again, it may draw more attention to his church. But a good pol should be able to get out of this bind. If he can't do that, he has no business as our nominee.

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:15:36 AM EST

Re: i've felt what you kinda have (none / 0)

He's done the Muslim thing a million times. The emails are just viral and you have to keep responding with the sort of mocking derision that these emails deserve.

As for the Wright thing, he has to find some way to publicly distance himself. Strangely enough, he could use the video sermons as evidence of the kind of politics his campaign has rejected. It's a perfect Sistah Soldjah setup.

by elrod on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:18:21 AM EST
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i dont mean mentioning it at a debate (none / 0)

i mean doing what Jack Kennedy and Romney did. Sit or stand in front of a TV for 20 minutes, and fully explain the fact HE IS NOT A MUSLIM BUT A CHRISTIAN. And do that so no American in the country who reads the papers will forget. So no one on 60 Minutes can say he thinks that Obama may be a Muslim. Alluding to it in a debate vaguely is not gonna make it go away.

And bringing Wright up more is just gonna bring attention to the whole thing. He needs to threaten to leave that church if the next pastor is as divisive.

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:29:13 AM EST
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Re: i dont mean mentioning it at a debate (none / 0)

Haha - He could spend 10 minutes to talk about Rezko - Think about talking about the cranky uncle

by indus on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 10:42:00 AM EST
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What is the problem.... (2.00 / 1)

What is the problem with letting the primaries run their course? I don't get it. I can understand why Obama wants it to end. But please, what is all this nonsense about letting the process go forward? Do you want to disenfranchise states that haven't had a chance to vote?

Like it or not, neither candidate will get the required 2025 delegates by pledged alone. It's akin to a baseball game that hasn't gone the required 5.5 innings. Doesn't matter what the score is. It doesn't count until that total is reached.

Let me tell you something else: This Obama preacher story is not going to die easily. The Republicans will run this like crazy in the GE. It's a dream come true for them. Talk about judgment? Obama's shown he has extremely poor judgment in electing to stay with a preacher like this hateful guy all these years. No one is going to believe that Obama didn't sit in on sermons over this time where Wright didn't go off on his hate tangents.

by DaTruth on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 09:20:34 AM EST

Re: Why I am voting for Obama in PA (none / 0)

You may want it to be over, but if Obama is the nominee, then the Democrats lose the whitehouse...

There will be a flee of older white people, women and latinos over to McCain and HE will be the next President.....

So, hoping it ends quickly so Obama gets the nomination is basically handing the whitehouse to the Republicans....

The best we can hope for at this point is that Hillary pulls off BIG wins in upcoming states and overturns this thing...

SHE is our best chance at winning the whitehouse and going against McCain...

by nikkid on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 10:26:35 AM EST

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